Hello Grammar School Boy,

I tend to work in alphabetical order, so I’ll get onto Hampshire I’ve completed East Sussex.

In reference to Claire’s punishments at Priory Road Primary School she makes the following references in two separate nostalgia groups:

‘Cane ..at priory school ..by mr billing..slipper at priory road school mrs gutteridge ..mouth washed out with soap.’

&

‘Hands and slap around head with Mrs gutteridge priory road school and mouth washed out with soap 1977’

Hello Another_Lurker and six of the best,

It is indeed very rare occurrence when somebody posts a detailed account of receiving SCP, and I think we all conclude that often the greater the detail, the likelihood of it actually being as described is perhaps distorted.

There are a couple of detailed accounts from the county of Buckinghamshire that surprisingly nobody has requested more details for, so I’ll post this one and you can make of it what you will.  I have no reason not to believe it.

Within a British Nostalgia Group whilst replying to a thread asking if ‘were you ever sent to the principles office’ Penny recalled:

‘Only once ( they didn’t catch me usually ) but we had a perv as a vice headmaster..he actually got me to bend over his desk, pull up my skirt and slippered me 10 times..I was only 13, if it had been today he would have been sacked, he did this with all the girls sent to his office, only in later years did we realise what he was [faeces and head icon displayed] our actual Headmaster was great, and he heard of these episodes and told all teachers to send pupils to him not the vice..if the vice was seen by his secretary to be taking a young female pupil into his office she promptly called the Boss..and he would be in the Vices office within seconds..unfortunatly this all happened once I had left the school..so many of us gils were humikiated by this man..who was also my neighbour (small town) be treated his children with the same abuse..but back then nobody said anything..I now know that his daughters left home at 16, and his younger son also..they never spoke to him again..so what went on in his domestic home must have been even worse than I can think..he died only a few yrs ago, no relatives or friends at his funeral..yet he was a Vice head of the biggest school for over 20 yrs..silence said more than words’

It took a bit of work to ascertain her previous school, but in another post, Penny stated that she was a former school mate of Sir Steve Redgrave and this was enough information to get me in the right direction.  Within the school facebook group there are other SCP references of the same teacher applying both the cane & slipper to boys and girls and although I could find no direct account from Penny, within another regional nostalgia group she did quote:

‘mansbridge for what he did in those days with us girls and corperal punishment would or should still be in prison’

Hello I, Researcher,

My contribution #29 was of course very much tongue in cheek, as I am sure was clear from the accompanying emoticons.

However in your response in #31 above you make some excellent serious and  salient points.  It is indeed the case that very few people provide comprehensive details when describing corporal punishments they experienced at school, and if they do, as you also note, we tend to disbelieve them.  I am not quite sure why this is but in such cases I am certainly likely to fall into the disbeliever category.  This despite the fact that my own reports on almost anything tend to be replete with detail.  All very strange!

The case of the slippering on the knickers with skirt pulled up vice-headmaster is disgraceful.  There certainly seem to have been cases where the fall of a skirt could impede slipper or cane and which might have justified such rearrangement of clothing.  It might also have been resorted to in the case of an exemplary punishment to mark an egregious infraction.  In the latter case particularly there might have been perfectly valid reasons why the punishment should have been delivered by a headmaster or deputy headmaster rather than a female teacher.  But in any instance where cross gender punishment and clothing adjustment was required a teacher the same sex as the punished pupil should have been present to adjust clothing and as a general witness.

It is clear from the measures described in the case you instance that the school authorities became aware that something was badly wrong.  Instructions to other staff not to send pupils to the vice-headmaster for corporal punishment.  Instructions to the school secretary to alert the headmaster if the vice-headmaster was seen to be taking a female pupil into his office.  Quite incredible and totally inappropriate.  If the account is correct the vice-headmaster should have been disciplined, ideally sacked or demoted, and at least forbidden to administer any SCP on pain of instant  dismissal.

But this was not an isolated case.  There seem to have been numerous instances where a teacher’s irregular SCP habits or other undesirable propensities were well known to the school authorities, other staff, pupils, and even parents and nothing was done.  Little wonder that SCP gained a bad reputation.

As one of the only contributors to this Forum (and perhaps the only one) who has actually witnessed a teacher raise a girl’s skirt in order to slipper her, I’d like to offer a comparison between the two cases: P, Penny, described above, and B, the case I witnessed.

P: male teacher (deputy headmaster);  B: female teacher.
P: ten whacks;  B: one.
P: in private;  B: in front of the class.
P: age 13;  B: age 7 (or maybe just turned 8).
P: resented the punishment;  B: mentioned it as a badge of honour.

I also feel now that B’s skirt was raised because leaving it in place it really would have made the punishment ineffective. I’m pretty sure that the deputy head in P’s case did use this form of punishment for his own gratification. (As did a few male teachers telling boys to drop their trousers, as we now know from the famous C of E case).

There have, though, been cases mentioned of girls being slippered sans skirt, because they were wearing PE knickers: the (in)famous case of Fran of Wembley, and of course Another_Lurker‘s own experience. Again, both by male teachers.

AlanTuringBletchley: You could well be the only contributor here that actually witnessed a girl being slippered in class. That’s not saying it didn’t happen just that no one else currently contributing here saw it.
As I have said before I went to a boys only senior school. My mixed junior school used very little SCP even on boys. The few girls who were punished there were sent to the senior mistress. Apparently the senior mistress slapped the backs on their legs. I knew no more details than that. She may have punished them in front of the class she was teaching at the time. I only remember a few girls being sent to her. One girl in my class who was a bit of a tomboy and I think was sent to be punished a few times. My only real memory of this was when this girl returned and indignantly announced, “She did it on my bottom.” The girl seemed more annoyed than upset!
I said in a previous post here, back in the 1950s/60s, plenty of both girls and boys were spanked by their parents at home. It was seen as right and proper back then but not all parents used it or believed that schools should do it.

Hello six of the best,

You wrote above:

AlanTuringBletchley: You could well be the only contributor here that actually witnessed a girl being slippered in class. That’s not saying it didn’t happen just that no one else currently contributing here saw it.

For clarification and the avoidance of doubt, in his contribution #33 above Alan Turing did NOT claim to be the only contributor here who had actually witnessed a girl being slippered in class.  I, and quite possibly other current contributors, have seen girls slippered in class and mentioned it here in the past.  What Alan Turing said was that he might well be the only contributor who had actually witnessed a teacher raise a girl’s skirt in order to slipper her.

I have seen girls having their skirts raised for the application of SCP in front of the class many times.  Indeed on one occasion oft documented here my view was not only totally unobstructed but much too close for comfort because I was next in the queue for punishment.    However the punishment concerned was not the slipper but the smacked upper thigh.

At the time (the late 1940s and the early 1950s) this was the most favoured SCP technique of female primary school teachers in my area for both girls and boys.  To judge by reports here and elsewhere the addiction of some female teachers to this punitive technique was both widespread and long lasting.  Alas for them the advent of long trousers for small boys and tights and trousers for their female classmates eventually curtailed the ready availability in class of tender bare upper thigh for spanking and the habit declined in the latter days of SCP.o oo

I have also seen girls slippered over their skirts in class.  Not nearly as common as smacked thighs, but favoured by male teachers, who were quite rare in junior schools in those days.  Happily the only time I was in the slipper queue in front of a mixed class it was an all boy queue, for forgotten football boots.  In those far off unreconstructed days girls didn’t play football, at least not at school.

As Alan Turing notes in #33 I did witness a girl being bent over and slippered on her knickers, and in class.  On that occasion, also oft reported here,   I again had a close up view, but I was not myself being punished, although had fate operated in its normal mode I would have been bent over alongside her as she was being slippered for talking to me.  Most teachers would have operated on the ‘it takes two to tango’ principle.  That one didn’t.

However, no skirt lifting was involved in the punishment, as the knickers whose seat was the target of the slipper were gym knickers.  In those days they were not dissimilar from the variety normally worn under schoolgirl skirts.  Nonetheless we earnest seekers after the truth about the SCP of schoolgirls students of past school punitive techniques do observe a clear distinction for recording and classification purposes.

Various contributors here have recorded snatched sightings of girls being whacked on the seat of their gym knickers in PE classes, including slipperings.  Usually from a distance and by accident, because in general boys and girls did not do PE together.  However in the above incident I was also in PE gear and part of the same PE class as the punished girl .

This arose because during my last two years of junior school the main school was so overcrowded that my class of A-stream well behaved goody goodies  was out-stationed in a local church hall with just a single teacher.  The school wasn’t far away, but main road crossings were involved and too much time would have been lost in traveling backwards and forwards for individual lessons.  Thus we did PE as a class, supervised by the female class teacher or, in the case of the slippering incident, a temporary male teacher who took over for a few days in the absence of the class teacher.   Happily the commodious church hall provided separate changing rooms.

I don’t compete with Alan Turing, perish the very thought!  However to match his claim of possibly being the only contributor to witness a girl having her skirt raised for the slipper in class, I may be the only contributor to witness a girl being slippered in gym knickers while myself participating in the same school gym class.  Any rival claimants?  

A truly excellent thread.  Many thanks to all who contributed, especially of course. I Resercher whose dedication the Forum has  much to be thankful for. Having lived most of my adult life in Essex I consider myself very much a South Easterner and look forward to further posts in this thread.

Based on my own fairly limited research over several decades, it is my belief that the slippering of female pupils on the bottom by male teachers was more prevalent in the South East than those educated further North. Why, in the lower South East   this form of SCP should have been considered more “acceptable” ,if that is the right adjective, is a matter for considerable conjecture. @

I check.  Because I use a lot of BBCode which Tapatalk is prone to mangle I recheck.  So where the o oo which terminates para 4 above came from I have absolutely no idea!

Firstly my apologies for not making myself clear and possibly even then being wrong. I grew up in the south west of England. My infants school did like others here have said said girls of 5 – 7 having their skirts raised for a few slaps to the backs of their thighs. The same happened to boys there with the leg of their short trousers being pulled up. At my junior school that was adjoining the infants school they used various punishments to the boys. This changed/increased as we grew nearer to leaving for senior school. However as far as I knew girls still only received leg slaps.
I must say that I am delighted to see so much interest from  my ‘offending’ post. Perhaps it may encourage others to continue posting here more.

I have mentioned before (A_L?) that I was only spanked once in junior school, and it was of the short-trouser-leg-rolled-up, slapped-on-back-of-thigh variety. It stung but wasn’t life threatening. What upset me was that it was thoroughly deserved. Who else in their right mind would be warned not to do something during morning break, only to do the self-same thing at afternoon break. Children, eh?!

Funnily enough, the only other thing I particularly remember ab out that school year was a teacher positively losing it when a girl pronounced the word CONtroversy as conTROversy. I’ve never found out whether there is a correct way, or does it matter? Any thoughts?